lucas 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2012 If you're looking to add a drift brake to your MX83 Cressida, we've got a pretty simple way to do it and be able to retain the factory parking brake if you want. Our kit does not require removal of the backing plate or dust shield that locates the drum parking brake but you can remove it if you want without affecting the drift brake mounting. We've based our billet aluminum bracket kit around a Honda front caliper that is commonly available at parts yards and has a wider pad area then the comonly used 300Z rear caliper, (see Honda application info below). The smaller mounting size of the Honda caliper allows us to fit it in between the parking brake cable and the top of the suspension, just trim the dust shield, press out a stud and bolt the hardware together. No need to remove the wheel hub or fight with cutting off the entire dust shield/backing plate and parking brake cable. We supply all the necessary bolting hardware for the bracket and the caliper as well as a "weld on" mounting tab for the calipers flexible brake line for an OEM type install. Just add your master cylinder and some hard lines. Brake Calipers Not Included! You must supply the Honda brake calipers from an '84 to - '87 economy model such as a Civic HF 1.3L. The calipers must have a bolt center line mounting distance of 5 1/2" (see the third picture). If you source your calipers from a parts yard, you can also get the pads and the flex brake line with the spring mounting clip where the flex line will mount to the body. Price: $ 165.00 / pair ------------------------> MX83 Drift Caliper Bracket Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhoreMouth_Jr 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2012 any chance you guys gonna do a x7 set? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
white_raven 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2012 you wish! haha if julian gets a pair i'll see how close they line up to x7 and what needs to be modified to make them work! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucas 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2012 Ive never really torn an X7 apart but there doesnt seem to be the room to really mount a 2nd caliper. The swing arm is huge and completely in the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
white_raven 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2012 ^fuuuuuuuu lame! no hope for x7 lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2012 I'm guessing that there aren't many "performance" pads available for that caliper? Or are there? Just wondering how much thought that was given to that rather crucial aspect when developed. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HIZOKU 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2012 I dont get why you guys cant just use your normal handbrake tezuka 700hp stock handbrake with JZX100 discs. yet you faggots need hydros and now twin calipers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bowlsclubboy 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2012 Thats it guys, diss the only people in the whole world who reliably supply performance parts for our cars, that will motivate them to develop more. Keith its a fucking handbrake caliper, you could shove 2 pieces of timber in there as pads and it would still do the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucas 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2012 Keith: Yes there are aftermarket pads for the Honda calipers that fit. One of the caliper sets used to test on was an 88 civic DX front caliper and I know you can get Hawks and there should be plenty more. However, the calipers I am running have whatever pads were in them when I got it from the junkyard and it does whatever I tell it to. Hizoku: Thats great if you can get the parts easy. The performance pad options for the stock drum brakes on a cressida are hard to come by (at least from what I have been able to find in the US). The stock drum brakes lock awesome and are great for the street, however they are shoes, they can be problematic, great for parking, not so much for extreme duty. I have had a number of times when the brakes failed to lock the wheels at higher speeds and have even had them stick, which made life interesting. I'm sure this is just due to age the age and milage of the car but it's still a problem. From my understanding hydros became popular on the S-chassis because the stock ebrakes truely suck and when people found out how well the worked they started throwing them in everything. Dual calipers became a rule in FD for reasons of safety. Tapping a hydro into your stock lines could cause issues if you did it wrong and something lets go. Its a questionable rule, but apparently its there. The X-chassis doesnt NEED a hydro or extra caliper, this is true. However the 2nd caliper setup locks a hell of a lot better and is much more consistant than the original drum e-brakes so if you want one... Xcessive makes one that allows you to retain your stock parking brakes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2012 I dont get why you guys cant just use your normal handbrake tezuka 700hp stock handbrake with JZX100 discs. yet you faggots need hydros and now twin calipers. By that logic, nothing needed to progress, ever. Cars could drive just fine when the first Ford rolled off the assembly line. Thats it guys, diss the only people in the whole world who reliably supply performance parts for our cars, that will motivate them to develop more. Keith its a fucking handbrake caliper, you could shove 2 pieces of timber in there as pads and it would still do the job. For the love of god, let there be no constructive criticism in this world. Let's all get praise and participation medals. I don't know what you use, but I have heavy 18"s, 265s and occasionally hit tracks well above the usual 40mph drift jamz. Predictable and reliable performance is important to me. I have PMU pads right now that don't perform as well as I'd like using a hydraulic brake. Stock pads are not a step in the right direction. I didn't know if there are better pad options available. He says there are. Good to hear. Just love the culture of this forum. xoxo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bowlsclubboy 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2012 2 pairs of R33 rear calipers with whatever shit used pads came with them, clamping jza80 rotors through a 3/4" master cylinder, using my small ass arms, while drifting on actual race tracks, not cone dodging. kthx. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gaijin Smash Wayhoff Report post Posted December 21, 2012 Why did this become a pissing contest? Cool parts are cool. If you don't want them, don't use them. Now lets get back to doing over the pants hand stuff to XM because they're the only people at this point making anything for us and we have strange feelings for them because of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphxero 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2012 fwiw I went hydro and it works better than my stock brake ever did. I would stretch the shit out of the cables. Always adjusting shit, redid everything a few times but it would still start to suck pretty quick. Hydro is set and forget. the stuff I used is pretty $$$ but works all the same. I'm sure this xm jam is cheaper than pmu shoes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2012 im so fucking happy about this. for no other reason than its there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bwcress 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2012 I just wish someone would have said this was in the works and i wouldnt be dealing with this other janky ass bracket made by you know who lol... i dunno what happened to mitch or whatever but lucas do the forum that supports you guys a favor and KEEP US UP TO DATE ON SHIT THATS IN THE WORKS!!!! Good product as usual btw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HIZOKU 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2012 Why do they need to support to support the forum any longer they got there name out. now they just reap in the rewards and cash. How else does biz work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brinkin 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2012 Why can't they have just made these for z32 calipers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2012 z32 calipers cost more. they aren't as available. the pad surface is smaller. why in the fuck WOULD you use z32 calipers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphxero 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2012 lighter. 2 pistons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucas 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2012 bwcress - I dont think XM has the time or likes the idea of baiting people before a product is ready. With the development I have helped with, some have been easy to set up, others took a long time to figure out. Its better to come out with a tried and true product than to run around saying "look what Im doing" and then not have something work correctly. HIZOKU - This is the site that created the market and then blew it up when support came out for the X-chassis. Since they have had to wade through a number of failed starts at getting suppor for the cress, its also one of the most straight forward and jaded groups out there. Im pretty sure XM is still in the game of supporting JZXP. As for the z calipers: Z32 is a good caliper, but the main reasons for going with the honda front caliper were 1) cost --------------- even if you pick up a reman set from autozone they are still just ~$35 each. Im betting you can get them for free if you know the right person. 2) avaliability ------- if you dont want to go to autozone, its a good bet '88 generation civics are all over the junkyards and craigslist. 3) size --------------- the goal was to create a bolt on caliper adapter that would allow you to retain the factory parking brake. The Z and cressida rear calipers are huge and require you to gut the OEM shoe setup. Not everyone is going to want lose their parking brake in favor of a drift setup, with this you dont have to. The honda fronts fit great, and since they are ment for the front of a car, they provide an obscene amout of force to lock the brakes, even running junkyard pads like I am. If you feel the need to toss in aftermarket pads you shouldnt have a care in the world. an added benefit of the honda calipers that I didnt see coming was how easy they are to bleed compared to the Z calipers. I have heard and have had personal experience with the Z-calipers being a pain to bleed ALL the air. In comparison I think it took me about 15 minutes to get the honda calipers bled to where I liked them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuner4life 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2016 I've had these brackets on for a while now and have been running some generic civic calipers I found at the junk yard. They didn't really fit well (caliper too far away and ~1/3 of pad surface overhangs outside of rotor diameter). Those junk yard calipers are starting to leak. One of the things I wanted to take care of for this season was to get the correct size calipers to properly fit on the rotors. Per Xcessive's website the desired caliper is a 1984-1987 Civic with a 1.5l.. There were several variations available. Working at a parts store I was able to just order in every available caliper for every 1984-1987 Civic listed. Just in case there were differences, I wanted to make sure that I could get the right one. I spent most of my saturday shift messing with them. Some wouldn't fit at all, but the ones that did fit and seemed like they would work had the same problem as the ones I had from the junk yard (caliper too far out and pads not fully on rotor). So.. What exact vehicle am I supposed to be getting calipers from to fit these brackets properly? Or are they designed to hang 1/3 of the pad off the outside edge of the rotor? May call Rich today to verify what I'm supposed to look for if nobody knows right off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demesio 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2016 This sucked for me also because wasted money on the wrong calipers... here's what i ordered from rock auto...(that works) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordo 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2016 By "that works", do you mean 100% pad contact ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhoreMouth_Jr 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2016 When in doubt just call Rich. He's always super helpful. I just peeked at their site and it looks like even in the picture they listed it looks like a good chunk of pad is off not engaging the rotor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordo 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2016 Figures........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites