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i just finished the swap.. (w58) in my x7.the battery and alt are new. and the battery is at 12.3v.. the starter relay kicks over. and the solenoid on the starter hits too. but still nothing. i would assume the starter is bad but it worked before the swap. and yes i jumpered the neutral safety wires.

 

i got my wife to turn the key while i check voltage on the battery. it drops down to 11.8v-11.9v when she's turning the key.

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Smack the starter with something

Try jumping the starter off the battery

Idk

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Guest DuaxMachine

Don't smack the starter with anything, these are not cheesy chevy series wound motors,

they have rare earth permanate magnets, that break like glass.........

 

Most likely the contacts on the solenoid are fried.

Even though the solenoid travels the full distance, there is not enough material on the contacts, and the plunger is bottoming out before the contacts do.

 

Take it apart, you will see.

They used to sell replacement contacts for these starters, but I have no clue where to look for them, maybe NAPA.

I have one set of contacts set asside for myself, but otherwise, you will need to either find an old starter with good contacts, or just a whole new starter.

If you find the contacts, also pick up a new set of brushs, and replace those while your into the starter.

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Your engine is seized. Throw the car away

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Then there you go

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Why dont you buy a NEW one..

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i did.. 2 new ones lol! i had an autozone one.. figured it was just broke cuz it was from autozone. then i got one from oreiley's and its doing the same thing

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LOL!!

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Your energizing the wrong part of the starter.

in what way? i dont want to sound stupid but there aint too many parts on a stater.. enlighten me, please

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Guest Gaijin Smash Wayhoff

Can you post a pic of how you're testing. I have a feeling it must be something that you're doing. The chances of 3 different starters not working is not probable..

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all i did was touch the battery leads to the starter pos and neg wire.. sorry my friend took the jumper cables with him by accident so i cant post a pic

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A recap:

 

-did 5spd swap

-starters (3 actually) spin outside the vehicle

-starter spins inside vehicle but doesn't catch

 

...drop tranny, leave fw, and look at what happens under the car?

 

...find old timer and let him walk over and point out this odd thing he's come across twice in his life.

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Guest DuaxMachine

Check something other than the fucking starter !

 

Main cable coming from the battery, is it corroded an inch down in side the insulation,

to the point there are only 3 strands of copper left ?

 

Engine ground (did you hook up ALL of them?)

 

The chances of you getting multipal rebuilt starters that are all bad, is about 32,576,891 to 1 (one).

There is something else wrong on the car.

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Gorden - He doesn't even know how to check a starter. How is he gonna check anything else.

 

Obviously if it works with the auto, but not with the std trans, something fishy is going on, but here we are two pages later and we still cant properly confirm that a starter engages normally.

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