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Nice, you're going to have three years and thousands of dollars in the garbage car that you'll eventually hate and cant sell because of the money lost.

 

welcome to JZXPorject.

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I knew that going into it though.

Modded a motorcycle before.  Bought it for 4k.  Dumped like $4500 into it, and it's pretty cool and one of a kind.

I'll be lucky if I can get 5k for it next spring.

 

I dumped a ton of money into an undesirable chassis that I know I'll never get my money back out of, but I don't care.  I'm having fun doing it

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The normal delusion, right?  I like it, but it's an undesirable bike that few people will want, even after the work that's put into it, hence the large loss I'm going to take on it.

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Picture of said bike, damn it !

 

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2 hours ago, Demesio said:

Nice, you're going to have three years and thousands of dollars in the garbage car that you'll eventually hate and cant sell because of the money lost.

 

welcome to JZXPorject.

Right in the feels

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Cause I know Gordo's a big fan of bikes, I'll elaborate on this one.  Don't get too excited though.

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The parts list is fairly long, so I'll just elaborate on what I can remember off the top of my head

2008 SV650s

GSXR forks

Racetech Springs and compression valves

GSXR triple trees

GSXR wheels

GSXR rear wheel conversion kit

GSXR front calipers and rotors

Stainless steel brake lines

Zero Gravity windshield

Brembo master Cylinder and lever

Pazzo clutch lever

Woodcraft clip-ons and risers

Hotbodies undertail kit with integrated turn signals

ZX-10R shock

Driven front and rear sprockets (steel)

520 chain conversion, with quad-ring chain

Smaller smoked front turn signals

New tires

Complete HID kit

 

I did this with just basic tools, so I had to pay professionals to machine the top triple tree clamp and install my fork springs and valves.

 

I think the $4500 included a lot of the tools I had to buy, since I was just starting out with building stuff.  I know I'm missing a bunch of stuff, but that's all I can remember for now.

INB4 "That beat up R6 in the background is a much faster and better handling bike".  I know that, hence why I'm selling the SV.

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Probably get more out of it on eBay, selling it off one piece at a time,
the way old, tired, poorly built, money pit X8s are disposed of.

Hey short bus rider, do a fucking intro, or stay silent.
Fucking mongoloid newb.
Isn't there a snow blower forum some where that you can be welcomed on?

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Finally got going on my wiring.

I made a small sheet of aluminum to mount my connectors to.  The sheet will eventually be seam sealed to the firewall. 

Here they are mounted:

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And from the back:

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Here's the plate held up to the firewall

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I started doing a little bit of contact crimping.  All of the contacts in this pic go to my aftermarket gauges, which will be inserted into the back of the connectors.

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My firewall still looks like shit.  I hate bodywork, and it's daunting to hack up your firewall.  I know it will look fine in the end though.

The best part of these connectors is that I won't have to disconnect every damn plug on my engine when I need to pull it.  Just twist off two connectors and I'm good to go.

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I prefer to solder the pins for the 'cannon'/military style connectors,
even though I probably have the largest collection of high end crimp tools of any JZXP members here.

Haven't bought my connectors yet, probably do that about 2021....

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Yeah, that works too.  In order to continue the ground from my shielded wires, I'm going to be using solder sleeves with a pigtail.

Crimping is less messy and still very effective, which is why I like it.

Those damn connectors are expensive.  Two of them, along with extra pins and plugs ran me around $350

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A lot cheaper on eBay......

Military surplus, industrial surplus, etc., using search terms like 'military connector', and 'cannon connector' mostly.
Example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-Military-31-pin-31pin-USSR-Connector-Male-Female-SET/253988497731?epid=680481784&hash=item3b22e4e943:g:EmQAAMXQya1Q7gu5:rk:10:pf:0

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Why is this project so needlessly complicated? I did the quickest sanding putty work ever on the s13 and took zero time to block finish or even check everything and still looks 87% sick as before. Throw a sticky pad on a da sander and then give a quick scuff by hand then blow and wipe down and then shoot primer all over then single stage

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He's currently neck deep in the rabbit hole of overbuilding his stock JZ swap. Normally I would commend this much work, but to know that you're completely redoing your harness with milspec connectors, yet still running factory ECU and twins is kinda strange unless you never plan on going single turbo or standalone.

I just foresee you doing this work all over again. Just wrap up what you're doing and work out the kinks as you go lol.

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So you are saying:
"I can throw shit together, with zip ties, duct tape, and split wire loom, why can't everyone"

Not that either of you are in the zip-tie category, but just a little bit closed minded toward what other people want to do with their ride.
 

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I mentioned somewhere earlier in my thread that I wanted to get the car looking as good as possible and get as much stuff out of the way to make my big single build easier when I eventually get to it.

 

Instead of a clean engine bay, I should have just sloppily repinned/crimped some power wires, thrown in an uncomfortably stiff single clutch, bought shitty wheels, done no brake upgrades and called it a day. 

 

You know how hard it's going to be for me to go big single now that I've done all this work?  It's not.  The bay will be done, I will only have to pull out excess wires from the connectors that I won't use.  Yes, it's a dumb amount of work, but I'm a "while you're there", "one and done" kind of guy.

 

I'm not a "work out the kinks as you go" kind of guy.  Shoot me for it.

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Kinda contradictory no? You say you're a one and done guy, but you're sticking with the twins until you go single down the road.

Look I'm not knocking you for the type of person you are, the point I was trying to get across is what is your reasoning for reworking the stock harness and making it nice if you're going to tear it back apart to eliminate connectors once you go single. Rework seems contradictory to your "do it once do it right" life motto. Just trying to save you a month on your three year project so you don't end up like Gordo with a fabrication masterpiece you never drive. 

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1 hour ago, Gordo said:

So you are saying:
"I can throw shit together, with zip ties, duct tape, and split wire loom, why can't everyone"

Not that either of you are in the zip-tie category, but just a little bit closed minded toward what other people want to do with their ride.
 

I wouldn't say I'm all in this camp. My Cressida wiring is the bane of my life, but it's a car now and will be fully redone. I also own a bunch of cars that I can take my time on and I do small tasks and then finish up. I'm the first to admit I'm shit at a bunch of car stuff.

 

My comment is that there's a ton of half start no finish tasks. Paint engine bay, fuck ya dude, go for it. But it still has open filler and then he's working on motor stuff and now wiring. I'm all for doing it right..or as close to the first time, and not jump some wires just to get it going...like my cars' previous owner, but why wouldn't you want to enjoy the car, at least in some small capacity?

Do a refresh wire loom, no mil spec, fit the motor, mock up pipes and shit, pull motor, clean up engine bay and paint, throw back in, reassemble, start and go. Add more mods as you go along and money allows. L

 

Maybe it's just the exposed filler for ages and then getting dirt and grease in the filler, I mean, even prime the bare bits.

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5 minutes ago, battleaxe said:

Maybe it's just the exposed filler for ages and then getting dirt and grease in the filler

 

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31 minutes ago, battleaxe said:

Maybe it's just the exposed filler for ages and then getting dirt and grease in the filler, I mean, even prime the bare bits.

You got me there, I'll admit it

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Who are we joking we are all delusional with our plans/intensions.   I know for me I had one thing in mind when I started. One thing led to another, led to another led to 2 years and something that I no longer want to drive how I intended because I'm too pussy to smash it.

Wiring is something that you shouldn't go through more than once on purpose.  To me it's one of 2 solutions: adapt OEM, or new harness.  "Refresh harness" with no mill spec?  You are spending all that time making a new harness why stop going all out there for a couple hours of extra work on top of the several hours new harnesses take.  I don't know shit about making a brand new harness (always want to but NoBalls) but just adapting harnesses takes several hours to do it in a non-sloppy/semi clean way.  At least those cool round connectors allow for easy add ins in the event of going stand alone.

Wiring is something Boris enjoys more than most, so it's given he'll probably be willing to above most to be happy with his product in that sense.  We all be nit pickin 

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Agreed with Whoremouth. I love wiring. 

It comes so easily to me because I do it for a living on commercial aircraft. Most people are looking at wiring the way I look at bodywork. 

 

You all will get mad, but I've probably spent 4k on my wiring for this car easy. 

 

Don't care how dumb wiring seems to everyone else. I don't really understand why someone would drop 15k to paint a car, but whatever makes people happy 

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Do you have a good source of multi-color mil-spec wire ?
Planning ahead for when I do my Infinity.

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i couldnt imagine someone spending 15k on a paint job either lol.

most paint jobs can be done between 300 bucks and a couple grand if you do it yourself...time, quality, ingenuity are all factors...this is setting aside how much quality tools are, but painting can be done for inexpensive. and honestly anyone can shoot single stage and make it look decent...at least its one colour and getting runs is hard to do. 300 bucks would be absolute bottom of the barrel and have all supplies just sitting there...and the cheapest paint known to man. the average job can be done for sub 1k and a solid weekend...thought everything in USA seems to cost less than canada, so the number is arbitrary.

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