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[Gseventythree]

Here is a quick guide to wheel and tire fitment withh the SERIALNINE/STANCE coilovers. These are the <!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->RECOMMENDED<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> sizes for a mild Cressida. Less or more aggressive fitments are possible. If you need help, just post your Question here. I have extensive experience withh different sized wheels on cressidas all the way up to 20" so just ask.

<!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->All <!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->of these sizes require you to <!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Roll<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> the fender lip flat. The aggressive fitments require <!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Pulling<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->. This should not scare you. Fender rolling is a <!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->NORMAL<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> thing, it is done for safety and extra clearance. If you are running my coilovers, fender rolling should not be unfamiliar to you. Find a competent shop withh <!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->EXPERIENCE<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> rolling fenders on expensive cars. They should be able to do your car <!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->WITHOUT<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> cracking the paint. I've rolled all kinds of cars from Honda's to Benzes and my track record is around 87% no cracking ( you have to factor in shitty paintjobs and shoddy bodywork). For best results use a <!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->FENDER ROLLER<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->, the other alternative is to use a bat or pipe of some sort. If you want minimal paint cracking <!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->MAKE SURE<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> to use a heat gun.


<!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->-with coilovers, the<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> <!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->FRONT<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> <!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->clearance between the tire and strut is <!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->DECREASED<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> <!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->due to the thickness of the new strut.
-IF you run your car EXTREMELY low, the collars and spring perch itself can contact the tire/wheel.
-If you are running WIDER or TALLER tires than recommended, LOWER the offset accordingly, and PULL the fender more.<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->



<!--sizeo:14--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Black font <!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->= Full lip roll and Mild pull. <!--coloro:red--><span style="color:red"><!--/coloro--><!--sizeo:14--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Red font <!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> = Major Fender work Required.<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->

<!--sizeo:14--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Moderate height. <!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
This height has just a tad of tire gap, and the collars are ABOVE the tire.

Front.
17x9 +25 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->or LESS<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 215/40-17, 215/45-17
18x9 +25 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->or LESS<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 215/35-18, 215/40-18 (this is the perfect tire size for the front of a cressida), 225/40-18, <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->235/40-18<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
19x9 +25 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->or LESS<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 215/35-19, 225/35-19,<!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->235/35-19, 245/35-19<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->


<!--sizeo:14--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Aggressive Height.<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
This height tucks most of the tire depending on rims size, you will have tire tuck on 17's, and rim tuck on 19's. The collars will be BESIDE the tire/wheel and you will have spring droop withh this height.

Front.
<!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->17x9 +15 or LESS<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 215/40-17, 215/45-17, 225/35-17, <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->225/45-17, 235/40-17<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->18x9 +15 or LESS<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 215/35-18, 215/40-18, <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->225/40-18, 235/40-18<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->19x9 +15 or LESS<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 215/35-19, 225/35-19, <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->235/35-19<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->


<!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->For the rear I will just do a guide for fitments of various sizes vs clearance and required fender work. <!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->



17x9 +25 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->less than +25<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 215/45-17, 225/45-17, 235/40-17, 245/35-17, <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->245/40-17, 235/45-17, 245/45-17<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
17x9.5 +30 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->less than +30<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 225/45-17, 235/40-17, 245/35-17, <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->245/40-17, 235/45-17, 245/45-17<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
17x10 +35 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->less than +35<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 235/40-17, 245/40-17, 245/35-17, <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->245/40-17, 235/45-17, 245/45-17<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
18x9 +25 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->less than +25<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 215/40-18, 225/40-18, 235/40-18, 235/35-18, 245/35-18, <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->255/35-18, 245/40-18, 255/40-18<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
18x9.5 +30 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->less than +30<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 215/40-18, 225/40-18, 235/40-18, 245/35-18, <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->255/35-18, 265/35-18, 245/40-18, 255/40-18<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->

<!--sizeo:12--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->The following sizes are NOT tested for COILOVER clearance on the backside at extreme lowering (full camber gain). I am running offsets in the TEENS and I have no clearance issues on the backside. <!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

18x10+35 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->less than +35<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 215/40-18, 225/40-18, 235/40-18, <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->255/35-18, 265/35-18, <!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
18x10.5 +40 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->less than +40<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 225/45-18, 235/40-18, <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->255/35-18, 265/35-18<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
19x9 +25 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->less than +25<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 235/35-19, 245/35-19
19x9.5 +30 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->less than +30<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 225/35-19, 235/35-19, 245/35-19, <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->255/35-19<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
19x10 +40 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->less than +40 <!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 235/35-19, 245/35-19, <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->255/35-19, 265/30-19<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
19x10.5 +45 <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->less than +45<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, 235/4-35-19, 245/35-19, <!--coloro:Red--><span style="color:Red"><!--/coloro-->255/35-19, 265/30-19, 275/30-19<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->

[!--coloro:red--][span style="color:red"][!--/coloro--]For reference, my car currently has 18x9 -7 (215/40-18 ) and 18x10 +11 (225/40-18 ) withh MAJOR fender work. The new car and new fenders are designed around 18x9.5 -5 (215/40-18 ) and 19x10.5 +15 (245/35-19) :wink: [!--colorc--][/span][!--/colorc--]

This is simply a guide, SERIALNINE is NOT responsible for any ill fitting, wrong offset, rubbing, tire cutting, fender damage, loss, injury, or any other problems you may incur following this guide. Individual wheel and tire styles and manufacturers will differ in ACTUAL fitments and clearances. Minor body differences (previous repairs) and camber preferences will affect clearance as well. This is only a guide. The HIGHER offsets are simply calculated and not actually tested. SERIALNINE ALWAYS makes the car fit the wheels, NOT vice versa. You gotta pay to play.


G.

[Bill]

Excellent.

I just want to add, when running URAS, JIC, home made or similar extra lock inner tie rods :

You should be running about 17x9 +15 MINIMUM, the tire/wheel barely clears at full lock, and does require inner fender mods at super low ride height.

I'm not sure how an 18x9 +15 will clear with URAS tie rods, but will probably not be too far off with the appropriate tire size (no bigger than 215/40/18 ).

Also, when deviating from G's tire sizes, try no to exceed 25" tire total diameter. I'm sure G will agree with me on this one.

[Gseventythree]

I dunno how you guys can even run super lock tie rods. . My 18x9-7 withh a 215/40 rubs inners at full lock when drifting. . Like the part of the framerail that you CANNOT hammer. . If i had tie rods then it would only marginally give more lock to the outer wheel while the inner is steady rubbing. . My new steering arms will alleviate the need for aftermarket tie rod ends.

G.

[Jacob]

more serialnine gear? . . . dum da dum dum duuummm!!!

[toycoma]

I dunno how you guys can even run super lock tie rods. . My 18x9-7 withh a 215/40 rubs inners at full lock when drifting. . Like the part of the framerail that you CANNOT hammer. . If i had tie rods then it would only marginally give more lock to the outer wheel while the inner is steady rubbing. . My new steering arms will alleviate the need for aftermarket tie rod ends.

G.

that is why my car isn't as low as your's. my tie rod hits my lower control arm withh the Uras inner tie rods installed.

[Bill]

yeah, I know you are running like +18's, but I don't think 9j +15's are enough. with more offset you would get more lock, and yeah, the stockers can really lock farrr, but the URAS shit is also nice cause it's BEEFY too. don't forget those 18's would hit sooner too.

nomuken looks like a mongoloid.

[Gseventythree]

I'm not gonna raise my car. . Nor run smaller wheels. .. . the height doesn't really affect that anyways. . Feisar's right. . its prolly the 18's. .. .
Id rather engineer something so it could be lower and have more lock. . AND run bigger rims. .

About the 25" total tire diameter. . ummmm. maybe on the front. . 245/30-20= 25.8" so. . umm radiused fenders and 4.3 gearing. . no problem. .


G.

[aphxero]

this is good tech G. I hope we can eventually cover everything like 18x12 -50 on widebody x100 front end conversion haha.

Someone should make a tech section now for articles *cough brian*.

[Jason]

describe this "tech section"

would you like a forum? or something like the wiki?

forum i can do. BUT. i dont want to keep adding forum after forum so the site loses focus. www.ectoyotas.com www.toyotacressida.net

perfect examples of TOO MANY SUB-FORUMS.

[Gseventythree]

This is fine withh me. . Since SERIALNINE is mostly about pushing the envelope. Anyone who wants something a little more crazy than normal can just come here. . I'll be doing other stuff when i get my HD cam. . Installs, how-to's etc. . all linked to my site. . first is the video install when my car gets out of paint. . Then its how to clearance your front fenders for safety and wheel fitment. Other people can add here, and if i dont like it. . then I delete . .

G.

[Bill]

best place to put tech is just straight up into the x-wiki. discuss it on the bbs, but put the facts in there.